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Honest and Elitist Thoughts on Why Computers Were More Fun Before (opinion computers nostalgia simplicity limitations creativity exclusivity engagement) (datagubbe.se)
7 points by bmonkey325 13 days ago | 6 comments


  • KODust 13 days ago
    I object to the premise.

    > Configuration options and user empowerment was increasingly considered confusing or dangerous

    This, in particular, is nonsense, but it’s a long-festering strain of nonsense. A particular subset of PC users truly believe that Apple decided, with the original Mac, to take away “user empowerment” and “dumb things down” because users might hurt themselves. That was never the motivation.

    No, the point was to empower users in ways that actually mattered. Steve Jobs’ “bicycle for the mind” rhetoric was trying to communicate this. You can disagree with the selection of what, exactly, matters, but the underlying motivation was _never_ to “protect users from themselves.” That’s a canard.

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    • IcePic 12 days ago
      Well, look at the critique when Gnome3 came out to replace Gnome2. What pissed people off was exactly that it: 1. Set a certain amount of choices on how the gui should work and 2. Removed a lot of settings, especially those that would have allowed people to reset the things in point 1 to what they liked from Gnome 1&2.

      It's one thing for a GUI maker to move the task bar from side to top/bottom for instance, but another to also not allow you to have it back where you "need" it to be. Even when you do want to move defaults (like tmux changing hotkey from screens ctrl-a to ctrl-b) it still is a good idea to allow people to set it back, even if only for a transitional period. Muscle memory takes a while to change for some, and GUIs are not except from that, so if you always had the trashcan to the right, moving it to the left will piss someone off, but not as much as preventing that someone from moving it back again, if that is their preference, perhaps even a preference that your previous versions of the GUIs made for them.

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    • viler 13 days ago
      But that passage doesn't refer to the original Mac. It describes notions that started becoming commonplace around 2000, and the end of that paragraph specifically differentiates them from the Mac Classic era.

      About the argument in general, the false premise would be that the set of things which "actually matter" applies universally. It's not a question of what exactly matters, but _to whom_. There are different types of users, and the pretense of always knowing what's good for all of them better than those users themselves is certainly not unique to one person's approach... even if Jobs' personality could make it appear as if he had it worse than most others in the industry.

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    • bmonkey325 10 days ago
      I’ve lived the dongle life for 40 years because Steve jobs didn’t want people tinkering with the insides of the Mac. My ProFile and HD20 is testament to that.
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  • larsbrinkhoff 11 days ago
    Welcome to the PDP-10, it's not for everyone.

    Or if TOPS-20 feels to user friendly, try ITS. It's hardly for anyone.

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    • bmonkey325 10 days ago
      Like owning Cisco Catalyst 6509 chassis.
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