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  • KODust 171 days ago | parent | on: World's first chatbot, ELIZA, resurrected from 60-...
    As a fellow child of the 80's I totally get what you mean, but you still can't really do that. You can get close with a simulation inside a closed roadway, I guess. People would probably pay for that experience, actually. Hmm.
  • KODust 175 days ago | parent | on: The Visible Zorker
    Yes, lower right pane contains the source code for the version of the game on the left. Very, very cool. It’s essentially an interactive debugger; I assume Zarf compiled Zork I from the source using ZILF and somehow got a symbol table out of it, to support the interactive features, but I don’t know.
  • KODust 181 days ago | parent | on: Macbasic
    Also, Apple could have developed a fully in-house AppleSoft replacement by 1985; It’s unfortunate Sculley was not in a position — or did not realize software could be developed — to call Microsoft’s bluff.
    • bmonkey325 181 days ago
      Little more to it than that. Bill Gates and Microsoft held the cards and killed it - Because Apple still depended on AppleSoft BASIC in the Apple ][ and their license expired during this time. Apple would have to stop shipping AppleSoft BASIC in Apple ][ without the license.

      https://www.folklore.org/MacBasic.html

      • KODust 175 days ago
        My point is that, by 1985, Apple had the resources to develop a floating point BASIC of their own for the Apple II series. BASIC isn't that hard even with the primitive tools of the era; you may recall there were simple "open-source" versions in early personal computer magazines.
    • bmonkey325 181 days ago
      Little more to it than that. Bill gates and Bill Gates held the cards and killed it.

      https://www.folklore.org/MacBasic.html

  • KODust 181 days ago | parent | on: Macbasic
    Still wonder how different the world might have been if there had been an excellent Mac-native BASIC available early on.

    Microsoft’s BASIC was garbage on the Mac for a long, long time; it didn’t support the toolbox properly until very late, and when it did it was still kind of unpleasant to use.

  • KODust 183 days ago | parent | on: Alexey and Henk, the friends who took Tetris out o...
    The Apple TV+ Tetris movie mentioned in the article is quite good, and -- while intentionally highly fictionalized -- is somewhat accurate!
  • KODust 189 days ago | parent | on: The ZX Spectrum Outsold The PS5 Pro And Xbox Serie...
    I mean, it probably has more exclusive games than either of them
  • KODust 192 days ago | parent | on: Windows 2: Final Fantasy of operating systems
    Not sure if it's important, but Windows 2 is still fundamentally a graphical shell on top of DOS. I think the Unix parallel would be: is the X Window System an OS?
    • bmonkey325 191 days ago
      Ok. I will play. Is it because you invoke the shell vs having the shell started automatically. Leading to this query:

      Is Windows 95 an operating system ? If not why not. After all it relied on MS-DOS also.

  • KODust 199 days ago | parent | on: The $5000 GIF royalty fiasco of 1994
    Probably worth mentioning that PNG was created to attempt to sidestep the GIF patent mess.
  • KODust 200 days ago | parent | on: Why Did Early CD-ROM Drives Rely on Awkward Plasti...
    Hated those caddies -- they were a lot more delicate than the CD-ROMs themselves. Trays were a big improvement.
  • KODust 207 days ago | parent | on: PLATO: How an educational computer system from the...
    Folks interested in PLATO should read Brian Dear's definitive tome: The Friendly Orange Glow.

    http://friendlyorangeglow.com

    • bmonkey325 207 days ago
      This is something fun I will try to read during the holiday season. A related wealth of information on Plato: http://platohistory.org/

      Hopefully the webmaster will get a LetsEncrypt cert soon as that may turn off a lot of visitors

    • rocky1138 204 days ago
      Also please check out IRATA.ONLINE, which is a modern-day live PLATO system that you can connect to with vintage hardware.

      https://www.irata.online/#about

      • bmonkey325 203 days ago
        Think they are swamped. I asked about 1 week ago and still nothing.
        • rocky1138 203 days ago
          That wasn't my experience. I recommend following up with them.
        • bmonkey325 202 days ago
          Came through in the afternoon.
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